tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post7176424237057593698..comments2024-03-28T19:20:52.408+00:00Comments on WEMBLEY MATTERS: Scrutinising Brent's Scrutiny ProposalsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-605582846793854992014-05-30T20:59:49.747+01:002014-05-30T20:59:49.747+01:00My head just spun offMy head just spun offAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-70374324941131538532014-05-30T20:33:33.002+01:002014-05-30T20:33:33.002+01:00Ah, but officers argue that the current constituti...Ah, but officers argue that the current constitution makes no provision for a deputation. This was what caused the disruption on January 20th which led to Michaell Calderbank being banned from the local election count. The new Council will be voting on the proposal to allow deputations at this Council meeting which would allow deputations at future meetings. Mind you the deputation would be criticising the report by Fiona Ledden and Fiona Ledden will be the person deciding on whether the delegation should be allowed...Martin Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02194641151012303116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-86133964834921225152014-05-30T19:57:40.786+01:002014-05-30T19:57:40.786+01:00Can I suggest that someone takes it upon themselve...Can I suggest that someone takes it upon themselves to make a deputation to the meeting at which these changes will be debated. If nothing else, it's important that the false info/random survey on which they are based is debunked for the nonsense it is. Some real resident concern about democracy might also flush out who, if any, of the new councillors are prepared to stick their head above the parapet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-19888760295186716682014-05-30T19:40:27.387+01:002014-05-30T19:40:27.387+01:00If patient representation was ever intended to cha...If patient representation was ever intended to change anything, they wouldn't let you have it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-91802497009096322842014-05-30T17:02:49.013+01:002014-05-30T17:02:49.013+01:00Hope you don't consider UKIP for too long. It ...Hope you don't consider UKIP for too long. It may hurt when our Paso Doble moves are laughed at by every girl we've ever loved, but it would be an overreaction to take up bestiality and morris dancing as a consequence.<br />Mike HineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-84924450698663618092014-05-30T15:52:10.891+01:002014-05-30T15:52:10.891+01:00What exactly does " 'Manages' the Dem...What exactly does " 'Manages' the Democratic Services Team" entail? Is that an oxymoron?claremountieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11392927701817762687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-64628495648482655592014-05-30T12:56:22.025+01:002014-05-30T12:56:22.025+01:00Brent NHS Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG) is ye...Brent NHS Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG) is yet another secretive public body that needs looking into. In this regard, it is highly compatible with Brent Council. Patient representatives are constantly given the runaround and as soon as it appears that patient reps are getting to the bottom of an issue and challenging CCG decisions and methodology, lo and behold, the CCG decides to change its patient involvement structures.Nan Tewarinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-57059676941697755242014-05-30T11:25:47.889+01:002014-05-30T11:25:47.889+01:00Perhaps they should have looked at the Centre for ...Perhaps they should have looked at the Centre for Public Scrutiny's annual survey results - as that is not random and is the best reflection of scrutiny structures available. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-38869142652136728642014-05-30T10:50:53.592+01:002014-05-30T10:50:53.592+01:00"Fiona is the council's monitoring office..."Fiona is the council's monitoring officer and is responsible for promoting high standards of probity and conduct within the council." Ahem... Continuing to make the Brent bed for us all to lie in; the preferential 'tried and tested ' operational method Is to apply a Procrustean Solution! In addition, any policy (in order to be legally robust) ought to be based on sound demonstrable information and principal ; not 'RANDOM SURVEYS'! IMHO claremountieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11392927701817762687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-43924667037120568902014-05-30T10:44:43.349+01:002014-05-30T10:44:43.349+01:00Scrutiny of 'EmailGate' important (Anon 29...Scrutiny of 'EmailGate' important (Anon 29 May 22.08) - why did it take five months before some specific information was passed to the police? Who decided what was handed over? Why did it take Cllr Butt's intervention before the NFIB agreed to re-open its inquiry...? Meg Howarthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-18030803836422651892014-05-30T10:38:15.019+01:002014-05-30T10:38:15.019+01:00Our Corporate Boardrooms are now full of what you ...Our Corporate Boardrooms are now full of what you term GroupThink.<br /><br />Brent seems to be going down this corporatized route and I do not like the sound of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-29759243110529874822014-05-30T10:36:25.291+01:002014-05-30T10:36:25.291+01:00The abolition of the Health Partnerships Overview ...The abolition of the Health Partnerships Overview and Scrutiny Committee - the one I have attended and advised others to attend - would severely damage the ability of the Council which has responsibility for Adult Social Care and Public Health to integrate these services with those provide by the NHS locally. Expertly chaired by Cllr Mary Daly whose experience means that she really knows what she's talking about, the committee provides a forum where the CCG and Hospital Trusts explain themselves in language patients and citizens can understand and where their decisions can be scrutinised. CCGs are new bodies, struggling with responsibility for commissioning services on a limited budget and subject to pressure from bodies like Shaping a Healthier Future which are backed by PR firms. These committees are immensely important to local democracy and accountability and in the case of the Children's Services and Health Partnerships OSCs exist to safeguard the interests of vulnerable members of our community - children and patients.Sarah Coxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-13445500630793397582014-05-30T10:26:09.063+01:002014-05-30T10:26:09.063+01:00There is a limit to my investigative powers but se...There is a limit to my investigative powers but second entry was in name of Cllr Butt and probably re-sent when first was not published t. I took it as a tongue in cheek comment and whatever his faults Cllr Butt does have a sense of humour. Joking asides when we have bumped into each other indicate that he is a Wembley Matters reader.Martin Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02194641151012303116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-38366146025385921792014-05-30T10:18:29.083+01:002014-05-30T10:18:29.083+01:00Costs Savings ?
By reducing scrutiny and reducing...Costs Savings ?<br /><br />By reducing scrutiny and reducing the ability to debate key issues, "GroupThink," is the result ?<br /><br />"Groupthink," is a phenomenon that occurs when the desire for group consensus overrides people's common sense desire to present alternatives, critique a position, or express an unpopular opinion. Here, the desire for group cohesion effectively drives out good decision-making and problem solving. <br /><br />"GroupThink," is exactly why Brent needs greater scrutiny. We have seen many examples of decisions taken in the past few years that have polarized the community, as local views are rarely considered, resulting in poor long term decisions. <br /><br />Surely Brent Council should be moving towards, "Collaborative decision making," rather than this lurch towards a top down approach ? <br /><br />Toby Chambersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-57106035181111545432014-05-30T10:16:24.340+01:002014-05-30T10:16:24.340+01:00I have attended meetings of the Health Partnership...I have attended meetings of the Health Partnerships Overview and Scrutiny Committee and found that under the leadership of Cllr Mary Daley whose NHS and Trade Union experience is invluable, the committee has begun to perform a really important role in scrutinising decisions of the CCG, the hospital trusts and their relation to the Council's Public Health and Social Care responsibilities. Doing away with this committee would be a grave dereliction of duty and a disservice to the community, in spite of the fantastic job done by Wembley Matters.<br />Sarah Coxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-90899500406857971022014-05-30T10:10:15.803+01:002014-05-30T10:10:15.803+01:00I'm confused, Martin. Is one, none, or all of ...I'm confused, Martin. Is one, none, or all of these Butts an imposter? Do you allow posts under false names? How do you tell who is real and who isn't?<br /><br />Vladimir Ilyich LeninAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-21178325140838787842014-05-30T03:38:48.273+01:002014-05-30T03:38:48.273+01:00Fiona Ledden seems to have missed the obvious issu...Fiona Ledden seems to have missed the obvious issue here. Brent Council NEEDS MORE SCRUTINY than any other Borough! claremountieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11392927701817762687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-65338174158538798902014-05-29T23:40:38.034+01:002014-05-29T23:40:38.034+01:00Who needs scrutiny committees when we have Wembley...Who needs scrutiny committees when we have Wembley Matters. Lol.Cllr Muhammed Butthttp://www.brent.gov.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-18391444018291084112014-05-29T22:37:31.609+01:002014-05-29T22:37:31.609+01:00Who needs scrutiny committees when we have Wembley...Who needs scrutiny committees when we have Wembley Matters?<br />Cllr M ButtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-52076886722407708142014-05-29T22:21:07.663+01:002014-05-29T22:21:07.663+01:00Exactly why disenfranchised voters are moving to U...Exactly why disenfranchised voters are moving to UKIP as people distrust the main parties to look after our interests.<br /><br />May consider UKIP if Barry Gardiner does not immediately pull Brent Labour into line.<br /><br />So much for your words soon after the election MP for Brent North !<br /><br />Brent Labour appear to have not noticed your statement, as the bureaucrats are pushing ahead regardless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-62931599611848638702014-05-29T22:09:08.532+01:002014-05-29T22:09:08.532+01:00So the assertion in justification of her first pos...So the assertion in justification of her first post-election proposal, (and which claims to be based on genuine data and takes for granted our trust in the integrity which should be presupposed from her position and responsibility), turns out, in fact, to be bullshit.<br />Great start, Ms Ledden. And Mr Butt. And the rest of you.<br />UKIP supporters may be extremely deluded about the solution, but they're certainly spot on about the problem.<br />Mike Hine<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-77630516889214455952014-05-29T22:08:24.361+01:002014-05-29T22:08:24.361+01:00Interesting Lewisham has elected Mayor and yet has...Interesting Lewisham has elected Mayor and yet has 7 committees to debate and review decisions.<br /><br />It seems this is another power grab by Gilbert, Davani and Ledden with little ability to challenge their decisions.<br /><br />This also paves the way for EmailGate to be buried and the infamous shall we call it "CoplandGate."<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com