tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post8387721875033162856..comments2024-03-28T19:20:52.408+00:00Comments on WEMBLEY MATTERS: Why Friends of Kensal Rise Library accepted developer's offer of spaceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-89971198068446736482014-04-16T20:01:52.860+01:002014-04-16T20:01:52.860+01:00New application creates a viable and impressive co...New application creates a viable and impressive community space...at ZERO rent.<br /><br />This is a first for London not just Brent. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-41436075843010537852014-04-11T20:27:55.940+01:002014-04-11T20:27:55.940+01:00The building is the asset but it is only an asset ...The building is the asset but it is only an asset because if the activities that take place within it. The same building performing a purely residential function would not have a hope of being listed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-51013916439022210572014-04-10T11:05:27.257+01:002014-04-10T11:05:27.257+01:00'Margaret Bailey, chair of FKRL, said: “We app...'Margaret Bailey, chair of FKRL, said: “We applaud the action of our council and it’s willingness to take seriously this attempt to subvert local democracy and mislead the public.<br /><br />“Our community is strongly against this development for the library building and these fraudulent emails of support for the development were an attempt to divide and denigrate this community.<br /><br />“Fraud is illegal and we support a thorough investigation by the police.”<br /><br />Cllr Mashari added: “We must keep our eyes on the end result of securing a community library at Kensal Rise.<br /><br />“I am ready to work with the community and any stakeholder to ensure that this happens and that it is viable and sustainable"' - Brent & Kilburn Times, 21 November 2013. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-61555922171305923182014-04-10T03:10:29.978+01:002014-04-10T03:10:29.978+01:00Where has the hundreds of square metres in lost li...Where has the hundreds of square metres in lost library space - due to the closure of the six libraries in Oct 2011 - been "re-provided"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-58781373319567994472014-04-09T23:46:57.556+01:002014-04-09T23:46:57.556+01:00I am sorry but under the legislation an Asset of C...I am sorry but under the legislation an Asset of Community Value is the building<br /><br />http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/briefing-papers/SN06366/localism-act-assets-of-community-value<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-43285679112467463392014-04-09T23:01:42.061+01:002014-04-09T23:01:42.061+01:00When did FKRL and its supporters endorse the LTP? ...When did FKRL and its supporters endorse the LTP? The commentator at 18.39 couldn't be a councillor, could it...? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-55875785262998317162014-04-09T22:21:36.437+01:002014-04-09T22:21:36.437+01:00Nonsense - the (entire) building was not listed as...Nonsense - the (entire) building was not listed as an Asset of Community Value because it looked pretty, it was listed because the activities that took place within it (ie the library function) was recognised as having a community value.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-82602311801746039822014-04-09T21:27:36.598+01:002014-04-09T21:27:36.598+01:00If the whole contract is actually found to be inva...If the whole contract is actually found to be invalid, due to All Souls College trying to become the Brent planning committee by pre determining the reduction in D1 area to minimum 1500sq before Brent planning committee have determined and reduction it means Gillick does not even own the building, so he can't even rent it out.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-81188899768315314182014-04-09T19:59:35.045+01:002014-04-09T19:59:35.045+01:00The Option Agreement has NOT expired, as 14.7 make...The Option Agreement has NOT expired, as 14.7 makes clear. Meg Howarthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-20842474934391124642014-04-09T18:40:33.315+01:002014-04-09T18:40:33.315+01:00We missed our chance when we did not buy the build...We missed our chance when we did not buy the building.<br /><br />It is as simple as that.<br /><br />IAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-55574289371493525502014-04-09T18:39:20.268+01:002014-04-09T18:39:20.268+01:00Meg wake up.
The option agreement expired in Janu...Meg wake up.<br /><br />The option agreement expired in January 2013... do we know what the end deal was? No we don't. <br /><br />Think you will find the Library Transformation Project re-provided the lost library space within the borough.<br /><br />Hence lost library space has been re-provided. The Library Transformation project that states the space was re provided was written by our friends in Brent Council.<br /><br />I am not going too fast for you now am I?<br /><br />Who is hearing the planning application? Brent Council.<br /><br />Follow? .....<br /><br />To think a developer is going to say no to income producing D1 opportunities Church, Surgery, Synagogue, Creche if he doesn't get planning and open a library...... well that wouldn't be capitalism. <br /><br />And you now wonder why FKRL has done a deal?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-75165491320897864492014-04-09T13:32:26.129+01:002014-04-09T13:32:26.129+01:00Save Kensal Library Campaign sold it to the commun...Save Kensal Library Campaign sold it to the community that the whole building would remain as such and not 80% converted to flats.<br /><br />This is not what people wanted in the community.<br /><br />If for example the developer was required to make good the full loss of D1 space by offering alternative D1 space in other locations where other library provisions were lost, this might be acceptable. Simply accepting the demand of the developer is not good enough, when the community from other areas supported the library campaign and have lost their provision. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-84788247615213281732014-04-09T12:14:17.688+01:002014-04-09T12:14:17.688+01:00The campaign was about saving a library, the clue ...The campaign was about saving a library, the clue is in the name of the campaign.<br />A private school, private nursery, church or doctor's surgery are exclusive, not inclusive of all the community.<br />They may be acceptable to members of the community who can afford to pay. A library will be free for all to use - that is ALL the community. There is no intention of excluding any groups.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-29748233775972900182014-04-09T11:04:24.646+01:002014-04-09T11:04:24.646+01:00You say "Asset of Community Value." This...You say "Asset of Community Value." This relates to the building not the library. <br /><br />It is the building that was listed, not the library and the community space within the building.<br /><br />The original library proposal was to incorporate other community groups, so we could all enjoy the benefits of retaining an "Asset of Community Value."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-25524286325839501172014-04-09T10:50:05.666+01:002014-04-09T10:50:05.666+01:00The library campaign was about saving the whole bu...The library campaign was about saving the whole building or am I missing something ?<br /><br />The current agreement with 80% flats, I do not think is what the community supported the library campaign for.<br /><br />Perhaps we were all misled by the library campaign !<br /><br />If the eventual outcome is not a library I would rather the whole building, currently classed as D1 to be used for the benefit of the community, rather than 80% flats.<br /><br />80% flats does not benefit the community, but other community services such as school, nursery, church, doctors surgery etc would all be fine with me, if the whole building were retained as D1 community use.<br /><br />I do not think a developer should profit, simply because he has bought the building and is trying to secure the support of the library campaign and the library campaign seem to have sold out to the developer in exchange for their complicit agreement to now fully support his development.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-23100364015946843082014-04-09T10:40:44.861+01:002014-04-09T10:40:44.861+01:00Option Agreement 14.7 'For so long as an obli...Option Agreement 14.7 'For so long as an obligation under this Agreement remains to be performed then notwithstanding completion of the sale this Agreement shall remain in full force'.<br /><br />NB Option Agreement was signed in November 2012.Meg Howarthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-64405428397013952992014-04-09T09:38:26.704+01:002014-04-09T09:38:26.704+01:00The campaign has always been about saving a librar...The campaign has always been about saving a library. 'Asset of Community Value' did not exist when the campaign to save the library began in 2010.<br />If 'the building' is 'saved' for 'the community' (and the owner is still Mr Gillick) and a nursery, school, church or doctor's surgery is put in the building there will be no library, much as the community might want these. I want a library in the building and while I don't want flats I do want a library. I thought the campaign was about saving a library - not a building.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-26098832006849204472014-04-09T09:30:31.200+01:002014-04-09T09:30:31.200+01:00The option agreement was signed 26 Nov 2012 statin...The option agreement was signed 26 Nov 2012 stating no basement but then Gillick filed planning application with D1 in basement.<br /><br />This does not seem lirespect t when until the secret option agreement was opened the planning committee would not know an agreement had been reached in respect of D1 space not in the basement.<br /><br />Seems to me Gillick tried to pull a fast one when secret option agreement was secret.<br /><br />If this is the kind of Behaviour the so called financier whizz kids get up to Gillicks former life before becoming a want to be developer, then is it any wonder the country is on it's knees and the bankers have bankrupt us all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-38571272770552647442014-04-09T02:20:13.839+01:002014-04-09T02:20:13.839+01:00Maybe you should learn how to read.
This agreeme...Maybe you should learn how to read. <br /><br />This agreement expired in January 2013.<br /><br />When did we see the basement option and other options? December 2013? <br /><br />We do not know what this agreement was replaced with so we cannot say if what we are being offered complies or if a stipulation still exists.<br /><br />Jodi and now Eileen have not come up with one viable alternative plan. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-17187276354913656062014-04-09T02:12:53.510+01:002014-04-09T02:12:53.510+01:00let's not lie.
the last time upstairs was use...let's not lie.<br /><br />the last time upstairs was used Mark Twain was signing books downstairsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-44695763498022340502014-04-08T16:34:41.201+01:002014-04-08T16:34:41.201+01:00Does not sound like Gillick can be trusted if he h...Does not sound like Gillick can be trusted if he had signed an agreement not to put library in basement and he then proposed to locate library in basement !<br /><br />Simple solution vote against planning application.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-38274575987978316822014-04-08T13:52:10.121+01:002014-04-08T13:52:10.121+01:00Jodi Gramigni is one of very few people to have po...Jodi Gramigni is one of very few people to have posted openly on this and subsequent related blogs. You, of course, have chosen to hide behind Anonymous, as have most others - many to protect themselves, quite possibly, from the gratuitous rudeness you display should they wish to post a comment critical of FKRL's position.<br /><br />Jodi's comment above (3 April 19.30) explaining that FKRL's recent agreement with Andrew Gillick is for a "'period of negotiation' as the 'preferred tenant' but with no binding commitment" will have been useful to many readers of WM, helping them make up their minds about this deal with the developer. And she's surely wise to have urged caution. Clause 15.1 of the Option Agreement (OA) published on WM blog 'All Souls/Gillick Kensal Rise Library option... 6 April, states clearly of the library space to be offered that 'none [is to be] in the basement of the Property'. That didn't stop Mr Gillick including D1 space in the basement in his original planning application in defiance of the agreement he'd signed. Is that someone to be trusted? <br /><br />As for 'viable options' - do you think it viable for the developer's latest planning application to be heard before the police have reported? This is the issue exercising most of the commentators on this and the subsequent blogs. This is a very 'real world' question but one you have chosen to ignore. Eileennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-22029918304512049632014-04-07T20:30:02.126+01:002014-04-07T20:30:02.126+01:00What a space that is 80% less than what the commun...What a space that is 80% less than what the community deserves ?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-43168300740946057092014-04-07T13:31:06.363+01:002014-04-07T13:31:06.363+01:00We all get the picture Jodi you oppose the applica...We all get the picture Jodi you oppose the application.<br /><br />Now back in the real world the developer owns the building are you waiting for him to come around and hand you the keys. <br /><br />You have not come up with one viable option so perhaps it is time for you to be quiet and not ruin the chance to run a great space for the whole community. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2129943063330427887.post-41507512690259168192014-04-06T13:37:31.342+01:002014-04-06T13:37:31.342+01:00Yes but what in practice does ACV actually mean wh...Yes but what in practice does ACV actually mean when planning decisions are considered ?<br /><br />Does it mean anything at all if planning committee accept 75-80% loss of D1 floor area together with an architecturally interesting building of community value that turns a large majority of the building into "private Value" ?<br /><br />This week attended a very interesting lecture at LSE 17 contradictions of Capitalism. <br />http://www.lse.ac.uk/newsAndMedia/videoAndAudio/channels/publicLecturesAndEvents/player.aspx?id=2371<br /><br />The escalation of public land into private ownership is central to the equality divide. <br /><br />Simply giving into developer demands as the developer might have the upper hand ie access to finance etc means that generally a developer will eventually get their way, but long term loss of value to community and keeps people poor while enriching the developer and a select few financiers etc<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com