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Riders appear to have taken the trouble not to block the pavement
At Willesden Green parking shifts between the station and the next corner
Lime bikes takeover of Wembley Park stands normally used by other cyclists
Local social media has seen increasing numbers of posts about Lime Bikes that have become more frequent as youngster have learnt how to hack the system to have a free ride.
The problem is not so much on the bike riding itself, though cycling on the pavement is alarming to many, as what happens to the bike when the rider has finished with it. Badly parked bikes on pavements are an impediment to the partially sighted, the elderly, disabled and parents with buggies. Sometimes people are forced into the road to avoid the clutter,
A good idea to encourage non-car travel is in danger of becoming a burden rather than an asset.
The Evening Standard has reported the TfL, under pressure from London Councils is considering limiting the numbers in local areas and requiring designated parking bays. LINK
Unsurprisingly Forest, one of the major providers is opposed to restrictions:
Forest, which has 10,000 e-bikes in London, believes that placing too many rules on where the bikes can be parked, and on how many can be provided in each borough, will make them less attractive to Londoners.
It wants a “hybrid” approach, with cyclists able to park the bikes in designated bays or responsibly beside the roadside without blocking pavements.
Forest head of policy Alex Berwin said: “Yes, we need dedicated parking bays and mandatory parking, but when you go out to the more suburban areas, having more of a free-floating model works best, so people can have more flexibility around where they want to end their ride - nearer their home, for example.
The London Borough of Lewisham LINK is going to require parking in designated bays and nowhere else in the borough:
Now Lime and Lewisham Council will install 300 bike parking bays across the area. If a Lime bike isn’t parked in a bay users won’t be able to end their journey and will continue to be charged until they stop in a designated area.
There are reports that such arrangements will be on the condition that a council renew their contract with Lime. Secret London report that Other boroughs, including Camden, Westminster, Hackney and Kensington and Chelsea have already enforced rules around dockless e-bikes amid concerns from the public that they were a hazard on pavements
Wembley Matters asked the Brent Cycling Campaign to comment on the issue:
Brent Cycling Campaign supports the London Cycling Campaign belief that the massive increase of dockless e-bikes in London is positive overall and is leading to new audiences and communities cycling in London and triggering mode shift from less sustainable modes."
This is quite
clear that in places where cycling rate is traditionally low and where there
are no Santander Cycles stations, like the North of the borough, the dockless
e-bikes seem very popular.
So there is a big
unmet demand for cycling.
Brent Cycling Campaign supports the concept of shared mobility and we are
regularly suggesting to Brent Council that the solution to poor parking
behaviour is in plenty of dedicated bays. The popularity of their use should be
celebrated by the Council and a lot of insights
could be harvested to understand better where cycling needs are.
In essence: (my emphasis)
1. We need plenty of clearly designated bays to park the dockless bikes,
geofenced them and on the carriage way (not on the pavement).
2. A prompt and strict response by the local authority when the operators are
not following through.
3. The need for operators to regularly clearly and regularly communicate to
users the dos and don'ts and have strict enforcement rules when users don't
respect them.
4. For the operators to keep up with the technology and trend as this is a
sector that evolves quickly so they need to adapt promptly.
Poor parking behaviour should be addressed the same way as for any other bad
parking behaviour. We understand Brent Council has commissioned MPSmarter
Travel and City Infinity to help with identifying suitable locations for bays
which is welcome. Using regular cycle stands to park them (like outside tube or train stations) should
be allowed but not taking over every single stand like we have seen recently.
Whatever agreement the Council has with the operators, it should be regularly
scrutinised and updated to reflect an evolving situation. Dockless bikes operators operate globally and
plenty of other cities don't seem to be having the same issues, so there's
scope to see what works elsewhere.
Councillor Krupa Sheth, Cabinet Member for Environment and Infrastructure, said:
We are aware of residents' concerns with regards to the parking of Lime Bikes and we are working closely with Lime to strengthen arrangements around where and how their bikes are parked in the borough. This includes identifying suitable locations throughout the borough to install dedicated parking bays for bikes - similar to the ones recently implemented in our green neighbourhood areas; and requiring them to remove any badly parked or abandoned bikes promptly.
I think that most of us would support "concept of shared mobility" but the Lime scheme has clearly been very badly thought through and very badly delivered.
ReplyDeleteMuch of this blame lies with Councillor Sheth and the Labour Administration who allowed the Lime Bike scheme to be introduced into Brent without proper planning and assessment of the consequences of 'free for all' behaviour.
Of course people associated with the Brent Cycling Campaign would behave responsibly and not simply 'dump' their bikes so as to inconvenience others.
The state of dirty streets in Brent with people littering everywhere (and the inability of the Labour administration to stop it) should have been a warning sign and clear example that there are far too many people in Brent who unfortunately do not act responsibly.
As is often the case with anything the Labour Administration in Brent gets involved with there is little pre planning and everything is just reactive when things so clearly and predictably go wrong.
Why did Councillor Sheth not identify suitable parking location in the first place for example etc etc?
Because of this latest 'cock up' residents across Brent are rightly fed up and the Lime Bikes are discredited and seen as a nuisance.
The solution is to start from scratch. Suspend the Lime Bike scheme until all the elements of an effective scheme - parking locations, pick up arrangements, training and penalising irresponsible users etc - have been introduced, tested and confirmed as working efficiently.
They are a danger to the public and should be banned.
ReplyDeleteWell said -the bikes create hazards as mentioned and unfortunately are a complete eyesore more often than not strewn across the pavements. I’ve witnessed a bunch of youths stamping on one - just another thing irresponsible people can vandalise. As for the rubbish on our streets -don’t Brent employ any street cleaners? It’s getting unbearable and yet another health hazard encouraging vermin - wake up Brent and learn the word word efficiency!
ReplyDeleteHaving had the experience.
ReplyDeleteTo have bikes removed if they have been left in a stupid place please follow these instructions. They will collect, and are very efficient.
https://help.li.me/hc/en-gb/articles/115004916388-How-to-report-illegally-parked-vehicles
Re. Krupa Sheth's statement: I live in what Brent Council describe as a Green Neighbourhood Area, and have yet to see any signs indicating designated parking bays for Lime bikes.
ReplyDeleteI would support Councillor Sheth on his Lime bikes initiative. Bikes were promised for 20 years in car-free South Kilburn housing Growth. Lime now finally provides them.
ReplyDeleteJust today I saw a parking warden photographing and messaging about a Lime parked in the middle of a narrow pavement (he could have moved it to the side perhaps). Maybe a message on the bikes, 'please always park with consideration' could help?
It's all a bit too easy for car-owner, bikes of one's own in their garages freehold family home zones to say NO. Brent is not near to everyone a car owner like Richmond.
Lime can track its bikes already and needs to be encouraged to up its game and be more civic conscious, ditto Brent's master developers and tall tower freehold owners in the new feudal economy car-free housing Brent Growths zoned.
Funding for marked bays from TfL is conditional on boroughs agreeing to e-scooters for hire. Something in Brent we have not yet experienced.
ReplyDeleteHumanForest are objecting to the proposals for marked bays as they do not operate e-scpooters.
Uber Lime want to be the only business in town. They have the most easily hacked bikes, so these won’t end up in a marked bay anyway. They need to invest in updating their technology.
There is a carbon footprint to e-bikes and very few are being ridden by motorists. The impact on climate change needs to be measured.
This is an idea that is good in theory but a failure in practice. Ask the view of the pedestrians in Brent and not just the people who are contributing to Ubers profits.
Walking is the greenest form of travel. Using a bike with a lithium battery is not good for the planet.
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ReplyDeleteLime has been very aggressive, they seem to want to drown the
competition whatever the cost. And they have the worst geofencing
technology. Until we sort out the bikes, we really shouldn't be
introducing scooters.
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ReplyDeleteIt’s the kids that clock the bikes with the constant ring ring when they ride. What does lime do about that? Just impose a fine on them for every bike not parked correctly. It’s really simple. It’s a lack of will from Brent council (because lime probably fill the coffers
The answer is staring us in the face in the photos of Barnhill Road and Willesden Green. All this fury about pavements being blocked and not a word from the grumblers about the lines of parked cars in the carriageway. Don't they get in the way? Aren't they an obstruction? The place for Lime or Human Forest bikes is in designated spaces in the carriageway: a repurposed parking bay for a single car will house 8-10 Lime bikes comfortably.
ReplyDeleteI do not understand Janice Long's comment about "funding from TfL is conditional on" - why on earth is funding from TfL required for Brent Council to repurpose an on-street parking space? This is something Brent can do with its powers and it costs next to nothing. I also profoundly disagree with Janice that "very few are being ridden by motorists...this is a good idea in theory but a failure in practice". I was a motorist bit came out of car ownership because my car was not ULEZ compliant. Having had a bike nicked I am now a very happy Lime bike user, they are genuinely excellent for trips that just too far to walk, to places that are not handy for the bus and rail network. Ban Lime bikes in Brent, or make them unnecessarily inconvenient and I may be forced to go back to car ownership - which does not benefit the borough.
You can report badly parked Lime Bikes or scooters (we have seen Lime scooters in Brent) on Brent Fix My Street - take a photo of the bike where it is and a photo of the QR code near the handlebars - Lime can then apparently fine the person who left it there.
ReplyDeleteBetter public transport would be of benefit to more people.
ReplyDeleteWhere are all the Lime bikes when you want one? Also how do you hack them?
ReplyDeleteGood point about these Lime bikes being needlessly electric, what's the health and exercise point of that? These vehicles must be up to other data collection things.
ReplyDeleteBuses don't go everywhere and Brent majors in car-free packed-in tenanted housing towers GROWTHS zoned. So, get those direct connection active travel lightweight bridges across rail lines, major roads and canals Growing too before the towers fill-in, so that tenants can walk direct to tower neighbours over the tracks. If Chiswick can do it..
South Kilburn a 300 metre separate cycle route called Cathedral Walk built in 2001. Fast forward to 2024 and new works to complete this route from Kilburn High Road to Carlton Vale (part of medieval Kilburn Lane). Car-free housing only South Kilburn, but you guessed it- this completion work is mainly about enabling cars inside the car-free zone, with no extension and completion of the cycle route happening which is regarded as wasted space in a car-free housing population Growth zone 2024.
South Kilburn car-free tower growth zoned proves how Brent car-free tower growths zoned urgently need an effective cycle routes campaign independent of developer greed. Who knows, Population Growths Zoned could even be re-vision as being communities rather than another country by national Labour?
Social resilience matters?
Lime bikes are the best creation of this generation. It makes transport so much easier and they are just simply beautiful in every way
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